A call for some pagan discussion

About this*:

Mass Spell to Bind Donald Trump Feb. 24th
RITUAL (v. 2.1):

(Light white candle)
“Hear me, oh spirits
Of Water, Earth, Fire, and Air
Heavenly hosts
Demons of the infernal realms
And spirits of the ancestors
(Light inscribed orange candle stub)
I call upon you
To bind
Donald J. Trump
So that he may fail utterly

That he may do no harm
To any human soul
Nor any tree
Animal
Rock
Stream
or Sea
Bind him so that he shall not break our polity
Usurp our liberty
Or fill our minds with hate, confusion, fear, or despair
And bind, too,
All those who enable his wickedness
And those whose mouths speak his poisonous lies
I beseech thee, spirits, bind all of them
As with chains of iron
Bind their malicious tongues
Strike down their towers of vanity
(Invert Tower tarot card)
I beseech thee in my name
(Say your full name)
In the name of all who walk
Crawl, swim, or fly
Of all the trees, the forests,
Streams, deserts,
Rivers and seas
In the name of Justice
And Liberty
And Love
And Equality
And Peace
Bind them in chains
Bind their tongues
Bind their works
Bind their wickedness.”

Most of what little I know of pagan magic is generic Wicca. But it seems to me that a spell specifically invoked to make a person “fail utterly” is a curse. That’s considerably more than something like prevent him from doing harm.

This person even says “In other words, this is not the equivalent of magically punching a Nazi; rather, it is ripping the bullhorn from his hands, smashing his phone so he can’t tweet, tying him up, and throwing him in a dark basement where he can’t hurt anyone.”

Theft, destruction of property, assault, and kidnapping are harm. And this isn’t directed against Trump alone; it targets anyone who supports Trump. That would roughly 50-55% pf the country according to some recent polls.

Anyone planning to participate? Why? Would any Wiccans weigh in on whether (and why) this is harmful or not? Is this a “binding” or “curse”? Where is the line between them?

In mundane terms, if I have a hateful neighbor who speaks outlandishly about doing lawful acts, some of which might adversely impact me, I cannot pull a gun and force him to shut up. I can’t steal and smash his property, kidnap him, and hold him in my basement, just in case.

But… If said neighbor kicked in my front door, waved a gun, and announced his imminent intent to injure/kill and rob me, I would be justified in exercising self-defense to stop him and even hold him for the police to haul off.

Note the differences in the scenarios: Lawful vs. unlawful acts, speech vs. acts, the freakin’ imminent threat vs. fears that something might not be what I like.

OK, pagans; speak up.


* I don’t see who is behind this. It could be real, or it could be someone trolling pagans. Anyone know?

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