A call for some pagan discussion

About this*:

Mass Spell to Bind Donald Trump Feb. 24th
RITUAL (v. 2.1):

(Light white candle)
“Hear me, oh spirits
Of Water, Earth, Fire, and Air
Heavenly hosts
Demons of the infernal realms
And spirits of the ancestors
(Light inscribed orange candle stub)
I call upon you
To bind
Donald J. Trump
So that he may fail utterly

That he may do no harm
To any human soul
Nor any tree
or Sea
Bind him so that he shall not break our polity
Usurp our liberty
Or fill our minds with hate, confusion, fear, or despair
And bind, too,
All those who enable his wickedness
And those whose mouths speak his poisonous lies
I beseech thee, spirits, bind all of them
As with chains of iron
Bind their malicious tongues
Strike down their towers of vanity
(Invert Tower tarot card)
I beseech thee in my name
(Say your full name)
In the name of all who walk
Crawl, swim, or fly
Of all the trees, the forests,
Streams, deserts,
Rivers and seas
In the name of Justice
And Liberty
And Love
And Equality
And Peace
Bind them in chains
Bind their tongues
Bind their works
Bind their wickedness.”

Most of what little I know of pagan magic is generic Wicca. But it seems to me that a spell specifically invoked to make a person “fail utterly” is a curse. That’s considerably more than something like prevent him from doing harm.

This person even says “In other words, this is not the equivalent of magically punching a Nazi; rather, it is ripping the bullhorn from his hands, smashing his phone so he can’t tweet, tying him up, and throwing him in a dark basement where he can’t hurt anyone.”

Theft, destruction of property, assault, and kidnapping are harm. And this isn’t directed against Trump alone; it targets anyone who supports Trump. That would roughly 50-55% pf the country according to some recent polls.

Anyone planning to participate? Why? Would any Wiccans weigh in on whether (and why) this is harmful or not? Is this a “binding” or “curse”? Where is the line between them?

In mundane terms, if I have a hateful neighbor who speaks outlandishly about doing lawful acts, some of which might adversely impact me, I cannot pull a gun and force him to shut up. I can’t steal and smash his property, kidnap him, and hold him in my basement, just in case.

But… If said neighbor kicked in my front door, waved a gun, and announced his imminent intent to injure/kill and rob me, I would be justified in exercising self-defense to stop him and even hold him for the police to haul off.

Note the differences in the scenarios: Lawful vs. unlawful acts, speech vs. acts, the freakin’ imminent threat vs. fears that something might not be what I like.

OK, pagans; speak up.

* I don’t see who is behind this. It could be real, or it could be someone trolling pagans. Anyone know?

I’ve just gotta hear the back story on this one

Yo, Miller; the ’70s called. Some pimp wants his car back.

Catholic bishop attacked on altar during Mass for baseball Hall of Famer
A Catholic bishop in New Jersey was slightly injured during a memorial Mass for a revered Hall of Fame baseball player when a crazed man in a white robe walked up to the altar and punched him in the mouth.
Officers with the Essex County Sheriff’s Office rushed the altar and handcuffed the attacker, who may have showed up for the Mass at Newark’s Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred Heart in a classic purple Cadillac Eldorado with a faux-zebra skin interior, the website reported.

Where does one get a purple Caddy with zebra-skin interior?

How do you even do that?

Wanted felon loaded BB gun with live ammunition
During a search of Amen’s backpack police found a replica gun, a BB gun, loaded with live .380 ammunition. Amen told police he thought the BB gun was real and he would shoot the police or others if he felt threatened, according to Cpl. Liz Harris.

Seriously. A “BB gun” fires a .177″ (BB in shot size parlance). Even if they meant an airsoft pellet gun, that’s 6mm (@ .24″). A .22 caliber pellet gun is… .22″.

How do you get a .355″ .380 ACP bullet into the chamber, much less the .373″ case?

What could possibly go wrong?

Cougars could save lives by lowering vehicle collisions with deer
A team of researchers has for the first time begun to quantify the economic and social impact of bringing back large carnivores. Using cougars and their value in reducing deer-vehicle collisions as a case study, the researchers found that within 30 years of cougars recolonizing the Eastern U.S., large cats could thin deer populations and reduce vehicle collisions by 22 percent — each year preventing five human fatalities, 680 injuries and avoiding costs of $50 million.

Might I suggest California as the initial test area?

Well, now.

That’s an interesting tidbit I hadn’t caught before.

‘Gag’ order: FBI confirms special secrecy agreements for agents in Clinton email probe
“The purpose of this form is to maintain an official record of persons knowledgeable of a highly sensitive Federal Bureau of Investigation counterintelligence investigation.”

Of course, we always knew it wasn’t a mere “security review.” Criminal investigation was well established.

But counterintelligence…

And they’re still going to give her classified briefings as a prez candidate.

WTF? Liability in Tennessee

I’ll confess to being a little confused. I understood from every report that Tennessee SB 1736 made the posted property owner liable, but that’s absolutely not the case.

(a) A person, business, or other entity that owns, controls, or manages property and has the authority to prohibit weapons on that property by posting, pursuant to§ 39-17-1359, shall be immune from civil liability with respect to any claim based on such person’s, business’s, or other entity’s failure to adopt a policy that prohibits weapons on the property by posting pursuant to§ 39-17-1359.

It specifically GRANTS immunity from liability.

Are. You. Fucking. Nuts?

Via David Codrea

Mobile App Displays Location of Individuals with Concealed Handguns
Halos, a mobile application that allows citizens with concealed handgun permits or are legally entitled to carry a concealed weapon in their state of residence to anonymously and approximately represent themselves on a mobile device, has launched.

That’s right. They want you to pay to be entered into a giant database of people with weapons, and tracked 24/7 in real time. That would be a database subject to warrants and national security letters.

“With Halos, one can now post a giant warning sign for those contemplating violence. Halos’ maps illustrate not only where the good guys are (or are not) but how many are present. We believe that this will create a ‘halo’ effect of safety for our users and deter criminals where there are high concentrations of gun-carrying citizens.”

Um. No. The the halo effect of concealed carry is that they bad guys never know who is carrying when or where. So it prompts the less-stupid to be wary. Halos gives them a service that tells them where they’re more likely to find unarmed targets.

Is Cook an idiot, or a stooge for the Feds? I’d love to ask him, but there’s no contact data on their web site, and they domain registration is proxied with a semi-bogus contact email. I’ll try it.